#Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty
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zachsgamejournal · 2 years ago
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COMPLETED: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee New 'n' Tasty
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Within the past couple of years I played through the original again and absolutely loved it (to the best of of memory). While the vibe is great, and I'm pumped for more Oddworld, I was disappointed in what I hoped to be the definitive version of Abe's first adventure...
I was surprised that I chose to play this game. But having beaten Kena: Bridge of Spirits--I needed more beautiful adventures: NOW! I kinda new I was going to be playing Munch's Oddysee and Stranger's Wrath next--but those games are a bit graphically dated--and came out when we thought 3D graphics could deliver more than they actually could. So that desire to have pretty graphics, a great adventure, and delve into the realm of Oddworld brought me back to a game I wasn't sure I'd ever play: New 'n' Tasty.
Well...actually, I've played it before. I think it was on PS3. I was pretty pumped when it released because I LOVED the original. I was really excited to see the classic gameplay realized in a 3D environment. But I wasn't sure how they'd pull it off, because the puzzles and gameplay really is about these "screens". Probably more on that later.
What I remember from my first time replaying was that it was similiar but different. Because I hadn't played the original the world, I wasn't quite sure where they were deviating and where they stayed true. I only made it to Scabania before never playing it again (for some reason...probably kids). The game was cheap over xmas, and I bought it with almost every other Oddworld game, but I never really thought I'd play it. Yet, it called to me and I answered.
NOW, playing it again I have the benefit of having played the original fairly recently, and knowing that the original is a perfect work of art. So if I'm not feeling this version, it's because something didn't translate...and it turns out, things did not translate.
The first thing that got to me were the graphics. I was surprised to find them so bland. The whole time I was thinking, "Didn't they look better on PS3??" And my laptop is PS4 Pro equivalent. I think. I made it to the Scabanian temple before I found the graphics were set to medium. I pumped them up to full power and the game was much prettier. But I'm sad that I played the first half not seeing the game at its true glory.
This is important.
The art direction of the original is amazing. Quite often, the graphics were insanely realistic. As humorous and cartoony as it could be--some of the scenes are the most realistic and impressive I've seen in a video game. Unfortunately, there was a cost to moving to 3D on Xbox. The series couldn't rely on good art, it needed good technology. And while Xbox was the most power of its generation, 3D games still often had bland textures and block models. Some games, like Resident Evil Outbreak, were able to pull off amazing 3D graphics, but those were tight, small areas with restricted camera angles. The fully explorable world of Munch and Stranger had to sacrifice detail for freedom. Being released on PS3/PS4 (I don't know), allowed the team get more bang for the buck--but also using the side scrolling format allowed them to focus more attention to the immediate instead of sacrificing resources to render are larger world.
So yes, once I amped up the graphics I was more impressed. Even with low settings, they managed to transition many of the interesting, organic environments into cool 3D spaces. While the game clearly reuses resources, they're able to make each area feel pretty unique. This is mostly noticeable when escaping the factor at night and in Scabania.
Moving on from the presentation, I start to get disappointed...
The main problem with the game is precision. In the original, there's a station screen. Enemies within that screen can help you and enemies outside of it can't. There's minimal to no interaction outside of your screen. (I was thinking a lot of Celeste while playing this, how each screen in Celeste is a challenge that must be overcome one at a time.)
Anyway, in the original screen, Abe's movements were exact. If you pushed forward, he moved forward 1 unit. If you held down sneak, he snuck forward 1 unit. If you tapped roll forward, he rolled forward 1 unit. And if you ran, he traversed by whole units. This probably to some degree related to the use of a d-pad on PS1--but also that precision was necessary for the challenges you faced. You had to trust that Abe was going to jump to where he was supposed to, move where he was supposed to, and that "luck" was minimal to non-existent. It allowed level challenges that were very tricky, but if you figured out the right pattern of moves, you could get through it.
New 'n' Tasty lost that completely.
Instead of having set screens that have to be loaded, the game follows Abe like most 2D side scrollers would. Because of this, it's hard to know what the boundaries are. You can take over sligs, right--but in the original, sometimes the sligs would run off the screen and sometimes they'd stay. This set a parameter for the challenge you faced--can you take over this slig or not? Since there's no screens--it's hard to know when a slig is going to stay in range and when they're not. Same with the drones that zap you. Am I out of range or in range? It made each challenge a bit more organize, but that also meant there were many uncontrollable factors playing into success.
This was made worse by the controls.
As I said, the original had Abe moving in predictable units. No matter where you jumped, rolled, ran, walked--Abe would always stop at specific points on the screen--allowing you to plan tricky jumps and maneuvers. NnT allows the player to move slowly, quickly, or somewhere in between. You never quite know where Abe is going to stop. And, the greatest sin, physics seem to have a play. In the original, moving meant Abe moved immediately. But in this, Abe often has to build up momentum. This makes timing really tricky. You have to account for the build up and animations. It's like in the Crash Bandicoot remakes. In the original games, pressing jump made Crash jump immediately. In the remake there was a windup where crash had to bend down before jumping. Meaning you had to press jump a split second before you intended to. making jmping horribly imprecise. Same thing here.
One of the worst things, there's only one jump button. In the original, you could push up to jump straight up, or push triangle to jump forward. That meant you could push a button and know the result. Depend on it, even. But now I have to press forward to jump forward. And if I don't push it correctly, Abe could take a step or two before jumping--leading to my death about 100 times. This was especially frustrating at the end, where I kept dying from the imprecise controls and momentum build up. This was also really annoying when possessing a slig. They weren't as responsive as the original, so tricky sections often required me to think ahead. I wasn't able to react to things, because if you were reacting you were already too far behind. You had to know, ahead of time, what you needed to do because every action needed to be activated a few split seconds before they were expected to be executed.
This honestly made the game nearly unenjoyable.
The other issue is the story. The story and cut scenes in the original are near perfect. I rewatched a little bit and saw that some of the cut scenes had been changed. There's a great slap stick moment in the original when Abe falls into a meat barrel. As he's flicking off goo, he hits his head on a low hanging pipe. As Abe falls back into the barrel, he passes two sligs that would have killed him immediately on sight. It's a silly moment that adds some fun. These things seemed to be missed or not as well timed in the remake. The original's story was just so tight and precise (like the controls) that it didn't leave wondering what was happening, or why.
That's all I really have to say. It was awesome to see this game get a facelift, but the controls and curious storytelling decisions cause it fall behind the original in the key areas that make the game great. So the the pretty 3D graphics come at a cost.
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ohfugecannada · 2 years ago
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wiredalienvampire · 2 years ago
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abe's oddysee au where everything is the same except it takes place in June
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mingot-studios · 2 months ago
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So I'm confused
according to the Oddworld wiki, Abe is 5'8
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But in literally ALL of the official height chart promos, his height is consistently shown to be a little over 6 feet
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(sorry for the poor quality these were the best versions I could find :/)
Where are people getting he's 5'8??
Like I know the height charts aren't like completely reliable, but Abe's height is consistent through all of them!
So what exactly is going on here?
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xxduncandonutxx · 30 days ago
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Since I'm in the Oddworld fandom now, I wanna do a poll, which bad ending is the darkest?
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sweetiefayce · 2 years ago
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Oddworld: The Promised Neverland homage (pt.1)
‘Kay, so I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole that is Oddworld lore…and I was *already* a big fan of the whole concept thanks to “The Promised Neverland.”
Surely this has been done before, but I couldn’t help paying some homages to the series—especially because it fits so damn well for obvious reasons!
And honestly…this is the most fun that I’ve had with my art for a long, long time. It’s like I remembered what I love about creating, and even *how* to do it. I remember loving symbolism and the significance of imagery…like here? I loved having the plates act as a kind of sick, ironic commodity: like the Glukkons absolutely would sell off “authentic” style dish wares with which to serve their workforce up on.
And even though I’ve only been able to play both the New n’ Tasty re-release and Soulstorm, I had a lot of fun trying to kind of reconcile the designs some for Abe and Alf? Alf especially; I liked the idea of him wearing his overalls down 90’s-ish style because it kind of acts reminiscent of his old loincloth, but still keeps him as visually distinct as Abe or Toby.
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lesserknownhusbands · 2 years ago
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incorrect-oddworld-quotes · 2 years ago
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Molluck in rupture farms after being hit with lighting: uughhh my bones! That’s it, I knew I soulda- -Violent coughing-
-Bigface teleports in to save Abe-
Molluck: who the- how- why are you doing this?!
Bigface: Happy April fools! :) -chants and teleports him and Abe out of rupturefarms-
Molluck:
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mr-nutt · 6 months ago
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In this video, I dust off my old copy of Oddworld and try to see why I never finished this game.
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theguywithaplan · 1 year ago
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List of Video Games Turning 10 Years Old in 2024
Alien: Isolation
Assassin's Creed: Rogue (the one where you play as an Assassin turned Templar.)
Assassin's Creed: Unity (the one set during the French Revolution.)
Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky
Azure Striker Gunvolt
The Banner Saga
Bayonetta 2
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
BioShock Infinite: Burial at Sea (the DLC where you go back to Rapture)
A Bird Story (a sort of spin-off of "To the Moon")
BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma
Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel! (is this a sequel to 1 or a prequel to 1? I forgor)
Bravely Default (in North America)
Broken Sword 5: The Serpent's Curse
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (the one with K*vin Sp*cey)
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 (to date, the last new Castlevania game to release)
Child of Light
The Crew (going offline at the end of March)
D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die (a wonderfully strange game from the guy that made Deadly Premonition)
Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc (in North America)
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair (in North America)
Dark Souls II
Deception IV: Blood Ties
Demon Gaze
Diablo III: Reaper of Souls
Disney Infinity 2.0
Divinity: Original Sin (from the team that would go on to make Baldur's Gate 3)
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Dragon Age: Inquisition (the winner of GOTY at the very first TGAs)
Drakengard 3
Earth Defense Force 2025 (EDF! EDF! EDF!)
The Evil Within (from the creative director of Resident Evil)
Fable Anniversary
Fairy Fencer F
Far Cry 4
Freedom Planet
Guilty Gear Xrd Sign
Hyrule Warriors
Inazuma Eleven (in North America. And digital only.)
Infamous: Second Son (as well as its expansion, First Light)
Kirby: Triple Deluxe
The Last of Us Remastered (just one year after the original version came out...)
The Legend of Korra (the game from PlatinumGames that you can't buy anymore)
Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
Lego The Hobbit
The Lego Movie Videogame
Lethal League (from the team that would go on to make Bomb Rush Cyberfunk)
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII (the third and final chapter of the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy)
Lisa: The Painful (yes, really)
LittleBigPlanet 3
Lords of the Fallen (not to be confused with Lords of the Fallen, which came out in 2023)
Mario Golf: World Tour
Mario Kart 8 (the original version)
Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes (the prologue to Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, which came out 18 months later)
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor
Might & Magic X: Legacy
Murdered: Soul Suspect (it's like Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective, but not as good)
Natural Doctrine
Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty! (a from the ground up remake of the first Oddworld game from 1997)
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures 2 (yes, it got a sequel. I don't know how or why.)
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth
Pokemon Omega Ruby & Pokemon Alpha Sapphire
Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy (the last time that Professor Layton himself was the protagonist. At least, until the New World of Steam comes out)
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Pushmo World
Risen 3: Titan Lords
Sacred 3
Samurai Warriors 4
Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse (the 3rd one)
Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments
Shovel Knight (yes, really)
Skylanders: Trap Team (the 4th one)
Sniper Elite III
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Steins;Gate (in North America)
Strider (the one from Double Helix)
Sunset Overdrive
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS (or Smash 4 for short)
Tales of Xillia 2
Tales of Hearts R
The Talos Principle
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Thief (the reboot)
This War of Mine
Toukiden: The Age of Demons
Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (this game merged the storyline of the War for/Fall of Cybertron games with the storyline of the Michael Bay movies. I’m not joking)
Transistor
Valiant Hearts: The Great War
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter
The Walking Dead: Season Two
Wasteland 2
Watch Dogs
The Witch and the Hundred Knight
The Wolf Among Us (sequel this year!)
Wolfenstein: The New Order
Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z
Yoshi's New Island
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cardo-de-comer · 1 year ago
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More Oddworld art please 👀
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yay... just finished soulstorm and started new 'n' tasty so i suppose i'll draw more because i'm becoming addicted
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nonbinary-sticks-the-badger · 4 months ago
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last night i could barely sleep thinking about oddworld ps1. every oddworld game released post-ps1 (including the remasters) arent really that creepy. theyre a little bit unsettling in the stories and implications but the gameplay itself isnt CREEPY. abe's oddysee thrives on the darkness and the poorer image quality because in terms of actual gameplay, it's a puzzle platformer. the gameplay itself isnt very intensive for anything other than timing, which makes it even CREEPIER because it sort of provokes fear of the unknown. everything's a little bit blurry and incredibly dark and you never really know if anything's gonna come out of the shadows, because a lot of the time, they will.
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the new 'n' tasty version is still creepy, don't get me wrong, but it's nowhere near on the same level. the story's still there, the ominous signs, but it lacks the genuine fear. also i know nothing about soulstorm and from what ive heard im not missing out soooo :P
tw for like. idk if i can call it gore??? its like raw unprocessed meat on the bone (the first half of the game takes place in a meat processing plant) but it demonstrates what i mean better than the image above
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also to anyone who's never played before this area has chunks of meat rhythmically shooting towards the screen
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bosskie · 26 days ago
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Work Dying
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Man, I almost forgot this drawing idea until I remembered it randomly while I was enjoying some fresh air outside today... I probably forgot the whole thing for several months... I assume that not many of you understand the language here, so lemme explain:
One day, I saw a hoodie with that text "Näihin hommiin ei synnytä. Näihin kuollaan." which means in English something like "You don't born for this work. You die due to this work.". It made me immediately think of a Mudokon wearing such a thing. (Y) And yeah, that's Finnish. But I just really loved that text, and it makes me think of the working conditions at RuptureFarms. That background image also relates to this, since it's about that one text in it: "Only 1,236 work related accidents this month. Keep up the good work!" That sounds like a dark joke, since man, how there can be 'employees' still having all their limbs intact with so many accidents a month... Well, the whole MudokonPop plan starts to sound more sensible now... But I'm also referring to the brew with this thing, and to the whole possible meaning of Molluck's name...
But yeah, just some silly quick-ish crappy doodle-thing to fart this idea out, finally. Such a suitable work uniform would that t-shirt be. (Y) Oddworld is one playground for my dark humour.
I'm feeling a bit better again, but well, these moments do not last long, and I'm mainly depressed or feel nothing/melancholic. (I already started to feel worse quite soon after posting this...) I even started to write that self-insert story thing I mentioned, and wrote already seven pages in some hours yesterday... It's probably not even the half of the final thing... And I'm only writing about how I met Molluck, and how we become close and loving companions, but focusing on how our relationship started... Man, I have always written long stories... I haven't even gotten to the actual part where I met him for the first time, just done the preparation, though I'm going to expand and improve what I already wrote too... Yeah, it will take time, but what I wrote has already helped me with getting better into my own self-insert world, or how I should explain it... I have just never before written my story down, so it has never been anything "concrete".
I do feel like I could share the thing, with some illustrations too, since I have been sketching some stuff related to my story. I just don't wish that it's all about text, since yeah, the final thing could be like 20 pages long... I could write a book about my self-insert story. (Y) But yeah, I do still cut some parts out that I would write otherwise, to keep the focus only on how my relationship with Molluck started and then just summary how it developed from that. I also wanna cut the sexual stuff out, since well, I'm not comfortable with the topic... It's also something private, but I have already told you the main stuff. But there might be some stuff related to that too, but the action itself is cut. I just do not really wanna talk about sexual stuff, but well, that Gluk makes me, uh, feel things, hard... He is my only desire... I can say that spending so much time on that 3D Molluck thing so far has been worth it... There's still a lot work to do with it, but I have given lots of love for the sculpt. (Y) I can confess that I'm kinda addicted to my own "material"... Holy oddness when the thing is finished... I just want that Gluk so badly... He just makes me feel so good, and I do not mean that only in a sexual way, since he really feels like "the one" for me. Sometimes, I think of that I wanna be bastards with Molluck. (Y) I just really love him so much...
Oh, and I recently also learned that OWI would have wanted to enhance Molluck already in New 'n' Tasty but they didn't have enough budget for that... Man, I would have loved to know what it would have actually meant... I wish that Molluck content doesn't get cut from whatever OWI is working on right now, yet again... Lorne knows that I'm really into Molluck's story, so I have my hopes! Man, I have been thinking if I should write like a letter of thanks for Molluck to OWI... I just don't know... It kinda scares me, but welp, how badly they could actually think about this "Molluck freak"? Molluck deserves love too! I mean, it's kinda funny how you are supposed to get attached to Abe and other Muds, it's the game design there, but it's Molluck who got my sympathy... I don't hate Abe, but I cannot help that I have always loved the Gluks the most... Even I do not wish bad stuff for Abe, I would let Molluck do whatever he wants to him, just whatever makes Molluck happy (though, if it’s something that doesn’t seem wise, I would tell him not to do it); it's what matters the most for me here. My heart chose Molluck, so I'm just listening to my heart. He just means so much to me... Thinking about his possible execution has made me cry...
But yeah, all I'm saying here is that I love this endearingly "nasty" Gluk, so much! 💓
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wiredalienvampire · 2 years ago
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Happy Birthday to Oddworld: New N' Tasty!!!
This silly game is now...9 years old...(christ)
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bergwerkderbilder · 1 year ago
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Tag Masterpost
I'm doing my best to tag and organise all my posts, so have a list. I usually also tag places, quest/tale names and characters. Will update the list with new tag series as needed.
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stirdrawsandreblaws · 1 year ago
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the remake for oddworld: abe's oddysee is on sale on GOG for $5 rn
the original is going on 27 years old now and it's still legitimately one of the best puzzle platformer games i've ever played; delightfully gruesome visuals, tight writing, inventive control methods, and it's just plain fascinating on every level from concept to execution, from the character designs to the anticapitalist narrative
everything i hear abt the remake is that it's THE way to play (and given the introduction of an easy mode, where the new hard mode is close to the significant difficulty of the original, i am inclined to agree)
do yourself a favor and pick this one up, it's an absolute gem
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